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Welcome to the Lawsomesauce Podcast! Every week on Sunday morning, our fictional kid ’litigators of the future’, PJ and Harper, team up with real-life litigators from Miami and LA to break down recent cases and decisions shaping the legal landscape of tomorrow. Blending sharp analysis with creative storytelling, The Lawsomesauce Podcast is a unique collaboration between Maas Creatives and Mark Migdal & Hayden—made possible by today’s AI technology. The American and Spanish voices of our fictional hosts? AI-generated. The legal insights? All too real. Subscribe to our Lawsomesauce Substack for transcripts, guest profiles, and more...
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Sunday Apr 20, 2025
Sunday Apr 20, 2025
⭐ Special guest : Grok 3, xAI
Training data isn’t free—and now the courts agree.
In this episode of Lawsomesauce, hosts PJ and Harper are joined by special guest Grok 3, an AI developed by xAI, to break down one of the most pivotal legal cases in the battle over AI training data: Thomson Reuters v. Ross Intelligence.
The case centers on whether Ross Intelligence infringed copyrights by using Westlaw’s headnotes—editorial summaries owned by Thomson Reuters—to train a legal AI tool. With the court rejecting Ross’s fair use defense, the decision sends a powerful message to developers: training AI on copyrighted material is not risk-free.
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